That shouldn’t be a concern for anybody. The teams are gonna play 16 games are going to be well oiled machines.There has already been 16 teams from a region making the playoffs [ 2013-15 D1]
If schools are worried by the number of potential games played in a season; only schedule 8 or 9 in the regular season- "problem" solved
I know personally if my team is fortunate to get a bye week 11 I would be attending another local team who would be playing that weekend.Interestingly, it could really help attendance. You will get more teams who may rarely experience the playoffs. Twice as many home games for the Iplayoffs. Players, coaches, and fans from the team with a bye are much more likely to go watch their future opponent in week 11.
I know that many don't like this but it is going to add alot of excitement for football those first two weekends. I suspect that week 11 in 2021 will set records for how many people show up on this site.
Nobody is going to cut back on the number of games they play in a regular season that is their gate money the playoffs schools only get a small portion. 16 games is too many for a H.S. kid, colleges do not even play that many but who cares about what's best for the players involved.There has already been 16 teams from a region making the playoffs [ 2013-15 D1]
If schools are worried by the number of potential games played in a season; only schedule 8 or 9 in the regular season- "problem" solved
Nobody is going to cut back on the number of games they play in a regular season that is their gate money the playoffs schools only get a small portion. 16 games is too many for a H.S. kid, colleges do not even play that many but who cares about what's best for the players involved.
Here is a novel idea, want to get people interested in H.S. football, create better play off match ups, to do that less divisions. No one is interested in watching another MAC school destroy some hapless team on the east side of the state. More is not better.
Because most other sports everyone gets in, of course.The OHSAA has to find a way to stay afloat after losing the winter and spring tournaments. Football and Basketball are easy tournaments to manage and sell tickets to and make money from. It does not take a lot of planning or imagination or hard work. If I was football, I'd take the 12 teams teams expansion for Regional playoffs and just be happy. If football doesn't happen or can't pull in more money, then the OHSAA will have to look at other sports to make money and once that happens, football may not be the sacred cow anymore. There is a lot of money to be made with Cross Country and Track and Field if the tournaments were run by people that wanted and needed that to happen. Need Soccer to make more money, I'm sure they can put some effort into making that happen and once it does, that could be effort not put into football anymore.
I still don't understand how "making the tournament" is put up on the mantel as an accomplishment. Why would it be any less of an accomplishment to make it through to the second game of the tournament. Would winning the region be any less of an accomplishment? Isn't winning your league an accomplishment? I think people know what an accomplishment is. I don't see kids in other sports boasting that they made the tournament. Just winning it.
I think the OHSAA may be heading in this direction. In the past in the NE district, basketball seeded the teams and then let them choose where to place themselves in the bracket. What happened alot of times, the #1 seed decided to take a first round home game and the lowest seed had to come to their place to play. In the second round, the #1 seed hosted the second lowest seed. This was because all the other teams avoided that top seed. Usualy two blowout games in a row. Now the NE brackets teams based on their seeding. With 12 teams, the #9 seed plays at the #8 seed. The winner then plays at the #1 seed. Two different teams get home games. The first game is usually close and the second is reasonable with occasional upsets. IMO, this makes the basketball tournament much better.Basketball baseball and soccer in particular see some ridiculous match-ups and scores in games that shouldn't be played where no one benefits from it { OK Some $$} Scores like 91- 12 73- 8 in hoops , Soccer games 14-0 15-2
You know I was not slamming Kirtland or Ursuline. ML is 1 - 2 vs Kirtland but rather play good competition and lose than play a powder[puff.Hopefully Kirtland and Ursuline are laughing at your hubris.
What I’ve been saying for YEARSI have a new format idea that I believe would work well and isn’t very complicated.
1. Get rid of pre-season regions
2. The top 32 in computer points per division make the playoffs
3. Create 4 regions Per division after week 10 based on the top 32 teams geography
4. Seed the teams 1-8 like they do now and play.
This would eliminate teams with 11 points making it in one region while teams with 19 points are left out in a another region.
DittoI know personally if my team is fortunate to get a bye week 11 I would be attending another local team who would be playing that weekend.
Every team gets in the playoffs in the other sports, theres nothing to brag about.The OHSAA has to find a way to stay afloat after losing the winter and spring tournaments. Football and Basketball are easy tournaments to manage and sell tickets to and make money from. It does not take a lot of planning or imagination or hard work. If I was football, I'd take the 12 teams teams expansion for Regional playoffs and just be happy. If football doesn't happen or can't pull in more money, then the OHSAA will have to look at other sports to make money and once that happens, football may not be the sacred cow anymore. There is a lot of money to be made with Cross Country and Track and Field if the tournaments were run by people that wanted and needed that to happen. Need Soccer to make more money, I'm sure they can put some effort into making that happen and once it does, that could be effort not put into football anymore.
I still don't understand how "making the tournament" is put up on the mantel as an accomplishment. Why would it be any less of an accomplishment to make it through to the second game of the tournament. Would winning the region be any less of an accomplishment? Isn't winning your league an accomplishment? I think people know what an accomplishment is. I don't see kids in other sports boasting that they made the tournament. Just winning it.
The rule could be changed, but currently scrimmages must be completed before the week of the first game. The 2020 scrimmage dates are August 8-22. The first Friday game is August 28.If it's legal to "hold" a scrimmage until after the season starts or before the playoffs (which with a potentially shortened preseason, it'd be easier to do), I could see many coaches who think their teams are high-seed contenders doing the joint practice/scrimmage idea, analogous to what NFL teams do in the second/third week of the preseason. The caviat here is that these bye teams in Week 11 would have to partner with a team not in their division (e.g. D1 Solon could go against D2 Hudson), so as not risk revealing too much to an opponent. With conferences aligned as they are, this shouldn't be too difficult.
First, it's about including more teams in the playoffs.THIS HAS ZERO TO DO WITH CROWNING A CHAMPION. THIS IS TO RECOUP LOST REVENUE. THIS IS A MONEY GRAB. PERIOD.
I mostly agree, but I would have preferred to see a couple of more divisions instead of another round of playoff games. 16 games is a long season.Bad mistake. I know some of you want football all year round but IMO the season starts to early and ends to late.
A bye week is a huge advantage.Just what a 4 seed needs is a bye week to play a 5 seed that has already won a playoff game. They won't be fine, I'm telling you there will be upsets that hadn't happened prior.
Is that why teams take byes so often in the regular season instead of playing club teams?A bye week is a huge advantage.
My comment was meant to be specifically about the new HS football playoff system.Is that why teams take byes so often in the regular season instead of playing club teams?
There is nothing to brag about in making the playoffs in football either. It's a messed up system when, as people have stated here, that it's better to finish 2nd in your league and make the playoffs than win your league and not make playoffs. It's all about scheduling. You have situations where teams beat other teams head to head and the losing team gets into the playoffs over the winning team. Winning the Region would be an accomplishment, but getting into the playoffs shouldn't be. Too bad that your quarterback was injured the first 3 games, but you ran the table when he came back. Tough luck that 2 teams in your league stink this year and beating them means nothing. You need to get out of that league. I see teams in our Region that don't have a single common opponent where a 7-3 record gets you 2nd and also 14th. 7-3 puts you ahead of 10-0. 8-2 was good enough to get you 13th 6-3 gets 4th. Somehow not playing a game is better than playing and winning a game. I also see where teams have common opponents and the difference in making the playoffs is the two non common opponents.Every team gets in the playoffs in the other sports, theres nothing to brag about.
Which for you, means more $$$, and another game to watch; for free.As a bus driver in the Olentangy school district I'm for it, that means additional possible field trips.
Of course it's an accomplishment (or was). Something you have to earn. Instead of expanding the football playoffs they should be tightening the other team sport playoffs. Do we really need a 1,2,3 win basketball team in the tournament? Baseball, softball, soccer, volleyball?There is nothing to brag about in making the playoffs in football either. It's a messed up system when, as people have stated here, that it's better to finish 2nd in your league and make the playoffs than win your league and not make playoffs. It's all about scheduling. You have situations where teams beat other teams head to head and the losing team gets into the playoffs over the winning team. Winning the Region would be an accomplishment, but getting into the playoffs shouldn't be. Too bad that your quarterback was injured the first 3 games, but you ran the table when he came back. Tough luck that 2 teams in your league stink this year and beating them means nothing. You need to get out of that league. I see teams in our Region that don't have a single common opponent where a 7-3 record gets you 2nd and also 14th. 7-3 puts you ahead of 10-0. 8-2 was good enough to get you 13th 6-3 gets 4th. Somehow not playing a game is better than playing and winning a game. I also see where teams have common opponents and the difference in making the playoffs is the two non common opponents.
Just use the same ridiculous computer system but let top 16 in and let the games sort it out then brag about winning the region. Make your league matter again. Allow teams to schedule without points being the only consideration. Why are so many of you so afraid of taking one extra week to let games determine the top 8 teams? Don't see how it lessens anything. It doesn't even have to be an extra week of the season. It's just exchanging one non conference game for a different game.