fridayfootball
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Just curious on everyone's thoughts
Just curious on everyone's thoughts
My comment was (mostly) tongue-in-cheek hence the emoticon.Remember, local playgrounds and other ad-hoc basketball opportunities are very limited anymore. AAU does have its flaws, but it does get the kids a run in the summer.
A kid averages around 17-20 in AAU and mommy and daddy wonder why they only average 8 during regular season. It’s called DEFENSE and some coaching. Glad they play some AAU but the coach in the winter gets the blame.
IMO, AAU is the same from the top to the bottom. It serves a purpose but it is also a big money maker for the organizers. The coaches are just smart enough to make someone else pay to make their recruiting easier. Hopefully the kids enjoy their time playing because the reality is that almost none of them are going to make a living playing basketball.True. There’s some big time AAU stuff and then the weekend moneymakers that have average talent. Big time coaches don’t go to the latter.
IMO, AAU is the same from the top to the bottom. It serves a purpose but it is also a big money maker for the organizers. The coaches are just smart enough to make someone else pay to make their recruiting easier. Hopefully the kids enjoy their time playing because the reality is that almost none of them are going to make a living playing basketball.
As to the question, it really is tough to say. People on both sides of the reopening issue are very passionate about their positions. Not sure what it will take to move a few more over to the reopen side.
That would be a big fat N-O.The portion of your comment I placed in bold could be one of the main issues for no AAU, if they are allowed to play, but crowd size is limited, are the organizers going to be willing to put on these tournaments with little or no money to be made?
Those tournaments are money grabs, too. All "travel ball" is a money-making endeavor, first and foremost. Yes, it's the best way to get exposure to college coaches, but not without parents paying and arm and a leg.I agree about local AAU tourneys. Waste of time. Pure $$$ grab. However, anyone who is anti-AAU should check out a circuit event (EYBL, UAA or Adidas). The talent level is ridiculous and makes local high school basketball seem boring. Kids that get the chance to play on a circuit would give up high school basketball in a heartbeat to play AAU. Best way to get exposure.
How is circuit basketball a money grab?? If a kid makes the team, the team covers all expenses (food, hotel, travel, gear). Each team is given a lump sum of money from the shoe company for being on the circuit. Only expenses for parents is if they want to also attend the games. That is their choice if they want to spend $$.Those tournaments are money grabs, too. All "travel ball" is a money-making endeavor, first and foremost. Yes, it's the best way to get exposure to college coaches, but not without parents paying and arm and a leg.
I enjoy officiating high school basketball in sold out gyms in passionate communities. I like fundamentally sound basketball and the enthusiasm of players competing for their schools and towns. I like working with coaches who, for the most part, do their job while I do mine and understand their role. Talent level is far down my list of priorities when deciding which games I officiate (I wish more officials had this mentality, too, but to each his own). That's why the only time you'll see me selling my soul to officiate street basketball is if I'm participating in an officiating camp held in conjunction with an event.
Yeah, for the very best of the best players. The majority of college recruits are not in that category.How is circuit basketball a money grab?? If a kid makes the team, the team covers all expenses (food, hotel, travel, gear). Each team is given a lump sum of money from the shoe company for being on the circuit. Only expenses for parents is if they want to also attend the games. That is their choice if they want to spend $$.
Those tournaments are money grabs, too. All "travel ball" is a money-making endeavor, first and foremost. Yes, it's the best way to get exposure to college coaches, but not without parents paying and arm and a leg.
I enjoy officiating high school basketball in sold out gyms in passionate communities. I like fundamentally sound basketball and the enthusiasm of players competing for their schools and towns. I like working with coaches who, for the most part, do their job while I do mine and understand their role. Talent level is far down my list of priorities when deciding which games I officiate (I wish more officials had this mentality, too, but to each his own). That's why the only time you'll see me selling my soul to officiate street basketball is if I'm participating in an officiating camp held in conjunction with an event.
The portion of your comment I placed in bold could be one of the main issues for no AAU, if they are allowed to play, but crowd size is limited, are the organizers going to be willing to put on these tournaments with little or no money to be made?
How is circuit basketball a money grab?? If a kid makes the team, the team covers all expenses (food, hotel, travel, gear). Each team is given a lump sum of money from the shoe company for being on the circuit. Only expenses for parents is if they want to also attend the games. That is their choice if they want to spend $$.
Oh the irony of a clown like you calling me self-righteous.There’s the self righteous attitude people cant stand about refs. Why do all refs feel the need to tell everyone about their “craft” and that AAU is below them? SO many refs have an attitude that they’re bigger than the game, and I honestly can’t understand why, because most of them suck, especially the high school refs. Yeah I know, that’s not you, because you‘re a craftsman that constantly works on your craft.
You’d be much better off laying low. The best refs you don’t even know they are there.
One correction . . ."Most ALL of them suck . . ." and they all have an attitude bc it makes up for the fact that they know they suckThere’s the self righteous attitude people cant stand about refs. Why do all refs feel the need to tell everyone about their “craft” and that AAU is below them? SO many refs have an attitude that they’re bigger than the game, and I honestly can’t understand why, because most of them suck, especially the high school refs. Yeah I know, that’s not you, because you‘re a craftsman that constantly works on your craft.
You’d be much better off laying low. The best refs you don’t even know they are there.
It seems as though you and your friend just don't like getting your opinions challenged. It's happened on multiple threads recently where whenever someone disagrees with you, you resort to ad-hominem attacks. Not really sure why, this isn't personal - it's a message board, people are allowed to disagree.One correction . . ."Most ALL of them suck . . ." and they all have an attitude bc it makes up for the fact that they know they suck
My only rebuttal is that it is very hypocritical for certain coaches and fans to behave the way they do sometimes then chastise an official because he lost his cool - they think they get a pass because they have a rooting interest in the game. At the high school level especially, there is no excuse for unsporting behavior, and if you can't keep your cool, you should get lost (that goes for coaches, fans, AND referees). Yes, as officials we must have thick skin, but at the end of the day, we are all human beings capable of inappropriate reactions to certain situations. No one should get a pass.Being a good official is not easy and most do not know that. I have seen many officials get upset at coaches or players or fans during games and that should not happen. I view an official like a mediator. You should have no personal interest and what gets said during the event does not influence your decisions.
You expressed your opinion, I expressed mine. (And if you didn't notice, I agreed with the gist of what you were saying.)As I said, being a good official is not easy. Most cannot go without a rebuttal. What is the equivalent of a technical for a coach to use on an official who should not get a pass?
Seems like my "buddy" and I hit a nerve . . . You probably are one of those refs that can't even see your shoes and make it past half courtIt seems as though you and your friend just don't like getting your opinions challenged. It's happened on multiple threads recently where whenever someone disagrees with you, you resort to ad-hominem attacks. Not really sure why, this isn't personal - it's a message board, people are allowed to disagree.
I could referee the first perfect game and you and your buddy would still say I did an awful job - because you don't know the first thing about officiating.
Try harder.