FirestoneFan
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I like winner of 1-8 plays winner of 4-5
I honestly don’t think expanding the postseason will help with the issue but there are a few issues I feel could help allowing teams that truly deserve one of those 8 spots in their respective regions. And I may get crucified with these thoughts and I personally think my proposal is crazy.
A couple of things first.
*push up the first day of 2-a-days by two weeks. 2 scrimmages are kept during training camp. Eliminate the jamboree week and it will become the new Week 1.
Regarding the issue of playing weaker teams and still making the playoffs. The criteria is the point system remains, but a certain criteria can be met.
* Teams must finish at least .500 or better to qualify for the playoffs, and at least play 10 games. Top 8 teams with a .500 or better record with the most computer points qualify. This eliminates any chance of a sub .500 team from qualifying. If at 5-5, a school’s SOS, Head 2 head, Common Opponents, and how that team faired would be factored in for a nod. If in a scenario where a majority of the region is or will finish sub .500 (unlikely), then the top 8 with the most computer points make it in.
* If a team cancels a game of their own choosing for no good reason, (ala Lutheran East-Vienna Matthews) while in season, that canceled game will have a negative impact and would be viewed as a loss in the computer points, not overall record. An exception can be made at the judgement of the OHSAA if cancellation occurs prior to Week 1.
* Out of state opponents only count as half of the points of an in state opponents point worth. Example if Team A takes on a team from Michigan and is considered a D-I counterpart, a victory is worth only half of a full because of being an out of state opponent and won’t face common opponents. This would discourage schools from scheduling out of state and looking for in state teams.
*Strength of schedule would be factored into the points system that would include opponents record and opponents SOS and how a team faired head 2 head. This would benefit smaller schools that play larger schools but won’t have major effect in the points standings.
*League leniency would help a team that plays in a conference that consists of sub .500 teams would allow Team A to gain additional points that may be missed out due to a winless or 1 win team. However, this won’t have a major effect on the rankings, this would be only if more than 50% of your league is sub .500.
*Smaller schools won’t suffer points wise as much if playing a larger school and lose since the larger school is deemed the favorite and expected to win. Example would be if a D-II team plays a D-VI team and D-VI team loses, some points (25% of points possible from a win) from that game can be earned based on performance. Points can still be acquired despite a loss by the smaller school (won’t have major effect) however full points can be acquired by victory as usual. This would allow neighborhood rivals to resume playing each other without major ramifications.
*Geography will factor in Week 11 opponents and Region selections. Top 4 teams in standing earn a home game, however, their opponent will be selected based on proximity would be their 1st round opponent. A set bracket plays out the rest of the tournament with rest of rounds played on neutral sites. Regions are determined based on proximity as well.
* Out of state opponents only count as half of the points of an in state opponents point worth. Example if Team A takes on a team from Michigan and is considered a D-I counterpart, a victory is worth only half of a full because of being an out of state opponent and won’t face common opponents. This would discourage schools from scheduling out of state and looking for in state teams.
If this were the case, How would teams Like St. Ed's, St. Ignatius, The Cincy GCL privates get games when they try to get in state games but no one will schedule them. So I believe that is flawed for the big schools. So why penalize a school when in state teams won't schedule them. These teams would have no problem playing in state schools if given the chance.
Region 13 last season had a few 7-3’s miss the playoffs. Just year by year everything is different.I get some 10-0 teams missed, but on the other hand region 13 this year had every team that got to 6-4 make it. You’re really diluting it to go much past 8 a region usually.
Exactly. I don’t think the first time a 10-0 missing in nearly 2 decades occurs is a reason to change everything immediately.Region 13 last season had a few 7-3’s miss the playoffs. Just year by year everything is different.
Football is different. You only play 1 game per week too, unlike other sports. No reason at all to include everyone. Plus there are too many teams in Ohio to do that.Why is football the ONLY sport where EVERY team doesn't make a tournament?
Shorten the preseason and add the extra game for the extra 4 teams in each region. I like the idea of top 4 gets to have a week off.
Why is football the ONLY sport where EVERY team doesn't make a tournament?
Shorten the preseason and add the extra game for the extra 4 teams in each region. I like the idea of top 4 gets to have a week off.
those are the best matchups in the NCAA tourneyCan't wait for those compelling 5-12 matchups.
Findlay, Bradley, Fairmont, & Centerville would have made it with this new format. Centerville was down 6 points with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter against #1 seed Springfield this year. Elks could beat half of the proposed 12 teams in a playoff. There would be no harm in adding 1 week.No No and No at least for for Division 1 with only 16 teams in each region.
For Example here are the 4 sub 500 teams that would be added to this regions playoffs if this was in effect this year. Ouch !
Findlay - 4-5
Centerville - 4-5
Hilliard Bradley - 3-6
Deleware Hays 3-6
Those are top-50 matchups from 300+ D1 teams, not top-12 in 16-28 team regions.those are the best matchups in the NCAA tourney
A 10-0 team in danger of not making it is due to the poor records of who they beat. That's just the way things work sometimes.I'm reminded of the 2016 5-5 St. Xavier team who won the state and deservingly so. In addition there is another thread of 10-0 teams in danger of not making it into the play-offs. Food for thought!