2019 Cleveland Browns

Ummm, now I don't unless he got it in grade school. Story I read was that he was a serious deviant. Players didn't want to room with him on the road because he'd watch porn and sit there on the bed, cranking it, in plain view. Heard his Hummer was in the parking lot, across from the Browns facility, and the staff was like "WTF?" Went over to see if something was wrong with him and caught him cranking it. Dude just has issues.

Yeah, heard that last night. Dude must have been a real piece of work for a long time now!



Teammates starting to bicker at Baker, but that will all calm down once they start the season hot and finish in first place
 
Hmmm.....

Get into 3 incidents including beating a woman, blame it on alcohol abuse, go into rehab, get suspended for 8 games... seems like the smart thing to do is to go to bars.
Just another in a long line of knuckleheads.

What is the odds on whether he ever plays in the NFL again? Not saying latest incident will result in lifetime ban, am saying the probability of his behavior will lead to another incident
 
Dude probably should be laying low and be out at bars. Idiot

I am not so concerned about a 23 year old getting into a disagreement at a bar as I am with the bad judgment of this 23 year old putting himself in that position after what he's been through.
 
That is kind of my point in a way but I dont think it is far fetched to think drinking may be a problem for him, not saying alcoholic but making dumb decisions

My post meant to say shouldnt be out at bars and should be laying low
 
Telling a 23 year old kid to stay out of bars is kinda pointless. Plenty of people who turned out perfectly fine did dumb stuff in their early 20s

Nfl money really makes the situation worse for kids this age, not better
 
Telling a 23 year old kid to stay out of bars is kinda pointless. Plenty of people who turned out perfectly fine did dumb stuff in their early 20s

Nfl money really makes the situation worse for kids this age, not better

When you have a talented guy like him where potentially one more stupid act means a lifetime ban, it is most definetly not pointless.
 
That is kind of my point in a way but I dont think it is far fetched to think drinking may be a problem for him, not saying alcoholic but making dumb decisions

My post meant to say shouldnt be out at bars and should be laying low

Yep. With money like that, he can bring the party to him.
 

'Delusional' is the proper term, Tom: "I was one of the better coaches in the league..." There isn't a more transient profession than NFL assistant coach. There is movement every off-season. Yet, "one of the better coaches in the league" still hasn't landed a job. If you're that good, you have a job in February. Is it possible that "one of the better coaches in the league" has not only coached himself out of the league, but talked himself out of it, as well?
 
'Delusional' is the proper term, Tom: "I was one of the better coaches in the league..." There isn't a more transient profession than NFL assistant coach. There is movement every off-season. Yet, "one of the better coaches in the league" still hasn't landed a job. If you're that good, you have a job in February. Is it possible that "one of the better coaches in the league" has not only coached himself out of the league, but talked himself out of it, as well?

Somebody has to do some research and find out who gave Hue the "Quarterback Whisperer" moniker and take away that person's credentials. I get that they had very little talent, but in his time with the Browns they were last in the NFL in win percentage, offensive efficiency, points per game and total quarterback rating. That was more than just a talent void. He really should look into selling used cars as he can sell a line of $h!+ with a straight face like no one I have ever seen.
 
Training Camp getting a little testy,only the strong will survive with Freddy and they know it.
 
Greedy Williams looking good in shorts and a T-Shirt. Worried though that once they put the pads on he becomes a cup cake...
 
A lot of national guys are saying Trent Williams would be a good fit for the Browns if the Redskins are going to give up on him. Dorsey is looking to be going all in and they still have the cap space so maybe this will happen but he is getting up in age and has a history of injuries then again he does play through them. No way do I give up a pick in the top 2 rounds in 2020, maybe a 3 this year and 4 or 5 in 2021?
 
Went up to the scrimmage. From what I saw, Seifert may have been a wasted pick as he appears to be losing the kicker battle. Lots of interesting formations on offense.
 
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